Elijah Moore, New York Jets
Elijah Moore, New York Jets, Getty Images

The Jets’ culture does not tolerate me-first players

The New York Jets seemingly cannot have nice things.

With all of the positive vibes in the midst of a three-game winning streak and a 4-2 start, wide receiver Elijah Moore has requested a trade, per NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport.

This saga began when Moore came out following Sunday’s game and lamented his lack of targets on Twitter (he later deleted the tweet).

On Thursday, the situation rapidly escalated when Moore missed practice for a personal day. Although it was originally reported that Moore was excused for a family matter, it later came out that he was essentially sent home by Robert Saleh following his disgruntlement over his lack of targets.

Moore’s close friend, Eagles receiver A.J. Brown, also wrote a cryptic tweet that fueled the fire (he deleted it shortly thereafter).

A few hours later, Rapoport broke the news.

According to ESPN’s Rich Cimini and others, the Jets have no plans to trade Moore. However, Denzel Mims‘s time may have come, as he has been practicing in the X role and would be the next man up should Moore be inactive on Sunday.

The question is if refusing to trade Moore is the right approach. There are several layers involved in this question.

Team culture

Joe Douglas and Robert Saleh have fully committed to a culture of high character and teamwork. The Jets thought that Moore was part of that.

However, requesting a trade due to a lack of personal numbers when the team is riding high is anything but high character. It shows a level of selfishness and a diva nature that is antithetical to what the Jets want on their team. Keeping Moore around would send a contradictory message. As Bill Belichick has always instilled in his teams, no one is bigger than the team.

How would they replace him?

Moore plays the Jets’ X position pretty often. It appears that Denzel Mims will be the next man up, but much has been written about Mims’s poor 2021 season and his lack of fit in the Jets’ offensive system. Garrett Wilson is obviously promising, and Corey Davis has been the Jets’ most consistent receiver this season, particularly later in games.

Many Jets fans like Braxton Berrios, but he is far more of a gadget player than a legitimate receiving threat. He can be a third-down target in the slot, but that would move Garrett Wilson out of the slot. Although Wilson can play outside if Moore needs the slot to get him going, it’s not ideal to put Wilson outside for a lesser receiver like Berrios. Berrios’s main skill level is with the ball in his hands, but he doesn’t run great routes or create consistent separation.

Jeff Smith is the Jets’ only other receiving option. He is primarily a special teamer for a reason. His speed is enticing, but speed alone does not a wide receiver make.

If the Jets were to trade Moore, it would significantly deplete their receiving depth. It could be argued that nothing much would change given that Moore has rarely been used in recent weeks, but Moore still represents a significant decoy, at minimum. Teams need to respect Moore’s talent. With Denzel Mims or Jeff Smith out there, Garrett Wilson and Corey Davis will have even less space to work with.

The only way to replace Moore would be to trade for another wide receiver. The question is if there’s a receiver available who’s worth trading Moore for.

Possible return

Moore’s quiet start to the 2022 season has significantly diminished his trade value. From Weeks 8-13 in 2021, Moore had 34 receptions (9th among WRs), 459 yards (6th), five TDs (T-1st), and 2.59 yards per route run (6th). Following that promising stretch that was cut short by an injury, many expected Moore to take his place as the Jets’ WR1 this season.

Instead, Moore has just 16 receptions for 203 yards and no TDs this season. His trade request further brings up character concerns that give the Jets very little leverage in any trade proposal.

Moore was the No. 34 overall pick in the 2021 draft. At the bare minimum, the Jets would want to recoup his draft value in a trade. Can they get a high second-round pick for a guy who’s been largely absent this season and is currently disgruntled? That’s an iffy proposition, at best. I don’t believe that Joe Douglas would just give Moore away for a later pick.

As stated earlier, a receiver-for-receiver trade would make the most sense for the Jets. However, the only real receiver available is D.J. Moore of the Panthers. Although D.J. has talent, his current stats are nearly identical to Elijah’s, with 20 receptions for 204 yards and one score. Other than that, Brandin Cooks was another name that came up, but Cooks is 29 and coming off a litany of injuries.

In terms of non-receiver assets, the Panthers’ Bryan Burns and Derrick Brown have been thrown out there. However, the Panthers were said to be asking for multiple first-round picks for each. That’s not going to happen. The Jets can also use an offensive tackle, and Tayler Moton from the Panthers has been bandied about, but his contract would be difficult to take on.

The Jets can scour the market for a coverage safety or linebacker (such as Roquan Smith) that Moore can be traded for. But it makes the most sense for the team to try to get back a usable piece for this season, which is starting to look like a playoff push, rather than trying to obtain draft picks.

Can Douglas do it again?

Joe Douglas has come from a place of poor leverage before and still obtained above-market value. The Jamal Adams and Sam Darnold trades netted the Jets far above the value that anyone would have reasonably expected in return for a disgruntled, outspoken safety wanting a payday and a first-round bust.

If Douglas and Saleh do indeed decide that pulling the plug is necessary to maintain the team’s culture, this may be the steepest test yet for Douglas. Moore has a world of talent, but the combination of his lackluster production and me-first approach to this situation will not make him easy to trade. However, he does have some pretty impressive film out from last year, and a team that needs a receiver, such as the Green Bay Packers, could still provide the Jets with some leverage to work a favorable deal.

What happens from here with Elijah Moore is anyone’s guess. This is a situation that devolved extremely quickly and has no place on a Jets team just beginning to find itself. The Jets can only hope that they are able to resolve the situation and move on.

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Rivka Boord has followed the Jets since the age of five. She is known locally for her in-depth knowledge of football. She hopes to empower young women to follow their dreams and join the sports conversation. Boord's background in analytics infuses her articles with unique insights into the state of the Jets' franchise and the NFL as a whole.
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Mike Palazzo
Mike Palazzo
1 month ago

JD is not one to rush anything and will only trade more for an excellent return. Moore holds no leverage at the bargaining table based on his accomplishments last season. Benching Him should send a clear message to the team as well as to Moore that the team comes first. My question is who replaces him on sunday? Mims or Smith?

Jonathan Richter
Jonathan Richter
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike Palazzo

I would go with Mims. He’s a much bigger target than Moore is, so it may be easier for Zach to find him, and he should have the ability to to go up and make contested catches. It’s a chance for the Jets to figure out whether Mims is a piece for the future, or a trade candidate in the offseason.

Jim G
Jim G
1 month ago

I was very disappointed to hear this news. Just when Saleh & Douglas have given everyone a reason to buy into the Jets success, a “me-first” type has now drawn the negative spotlight on himself. Even worse, coming from a guy who has proved very little.

It is obvious that the Jets’ strategy of trying to coddle their QB to success has now created collateral damage: a receiver’s feelings are being hurt and that receiver put his hurt feelings ahead of overall team success. I can see this being handled a number of ways, most of which will have negative implications for the team.

Maybe a sit down with Moore and Coach Saleh and hopefully Moore can be convinced that he can either be part of something really big or he will be free to leave when he becomes an unrestricted free agent after the 2024 season.

Jonathan Richter
Jonathan Richter
1 month ago
Reply to  Jim G

It sounds to me like they already had a sit down, and Moore handled it badly. I think at this point that great character that is still in the locker room needs to step forward. Guys like Corey Davis, Moore’s buddy Michael Carter, and AVT need to sit down with Moore and explain to him that he is going about this the wrong way, to apologise to the team, and to shut up and do his job. If he still wants a trade in the offseason that can be arranged, but if he expects teams to want to trade for him he’d better not put up bad film where he quits on routes and mopes around. No team wants guys like that.

Edward Kirby
Edward Kirby
1 month ago

They drafted Garrett Wilson (who seems to be worth the draft capital spent at this point) and Corey Davis is out-performing last year. Then there’s the improvement in the running game. What did he expect?

If it’s true that “you’re only as good as your third receiver”, then the team’s in trouble.

Richard Hausig
Richard Hausig
1 month ago

Very disappointing. Pure hubris. And from a guy that has done nothing the league. A couple of things here.

You cant trade him, unless you get a great return, which ain’t happening. The 49ers just got McCaffrey for a 2, 3, 4 and a 5 in 2024. We did better trading Sam! But if you placate him and don’t get the return and it sets a bad example and shows the players the organization is weak. He stays.

I am all for the rah rah, I’m that way myself but Salah runs a very loose ship and we are now on trade request #2. Thats what happens when you lack discipline and respect. His way will work if he’s successful over time but you have to get there first and while the players may like him, they haven’t shown they respect him. Thats part of this IMO.

Im very negative on the QB, thats no secret. However, I’ve seen development and improvement and he has to be allowed to learn and grow into the job, while on the job. Its not his fault that we drafted him too high, its our fault. They have an ever shrinking window of opportunity to coach this guy up or live with the knowledge they’ve wasted two top 5 picks on QBs in the last 5 years.

In order to do that the WRs are going to suffer here. I said before the season that our sweet spot for passing attempts is 20-25, no more. The staff understands that and has done a great job the last few weeks finding ways to make that work and they’ve created a winning formula lately. But this doesn’t go away unless the QB makes a significant jump over the next 11 games. WRs arent coming here to play with him. Would you?

But the immediate problem is now the locker room. Those guys know what is up, who gives them the best chance to win and Moore is very popular in the room. Does this cause a split? It did with Sanchez and now that the players see they can win they will be emboldened to find a scapegoat when they don’t. That’s how this works. Salah and JD need to nip this in the bud, lean on the vets and lay down the law. You cant suspend him or punish him or escalate the situation because its his right to ask for a trade. This is a big test for Salah who, like Wilson, is in the clock. He’s told us he has a solid locker room, I’m sorry, but the facts don’t say that. Players arguing with coaches, trade requests and a lack of discipline with both the players and coaches, who have also taken penalties from the sideline. Its never easy, let’s just hope they keep winning because if they don’t they may be sitting on a powderkeg.

mlesko73
mlesko73
1 month ago
Reply to  Richard Hausig

Richard

I do not believe that this is a Saleh “loose ship” problem. This is a misguided individual problem. There has not been one inkling that there is any type of locker room issue on this team, including Q yelling at the DLine coach. To the contrary, this team is brimming w/ goodwill and confidence, in themselves and in the coaches/organization.
We don’t know what Elijah’s place is in the locker room. As Rivka points out, Sauce has already tweeted out a bible quote about selfishness. If Sauce is critical of Elijah, I’d put strong money that he carries the sentiment of the rest of the locker room.
Neither Wilson, who has effectively still played less than a full season nor Saleh are “on the clock”. This team’s progress is AHEAD of schedule.
One point on which I do agree is that we cannot trade Moore unless it’s part of some crazy return (player or picks).

Richard Hausig
Richard Hausig
1 month ago
Reply to  mlesko73

I think thats the half full view and I appreciate that. I like and respect Salah very much personally and I am rooting for him. He’s winning now and thats the bottom line, but underneath that there are a lot of red flags. We’ve had 2 players ask out, it happens, but that along with the discipline issues, the sideline issues, the bad penalties and a lot of questionable game decisions cant be ignored.

As for Wilson? He’s in the same situation as Sam was. The 4th year option is a lot of money and unless he significantly improves over the next 28 games you cant keep him. I think the NFL is wrong to do the rookie deals this way but thats how it is and in our case it really makes the rebuild tougher. The coach has to win enough games to show progress while the QB needs to develop. If he was a 3rd round pick (which is what he looks like) the difference in money would allow them more time but hes the 2nd overall pick, make it or break it. And if we are being honest, he’s terrible. Is he the best option right now? Yes. Can he manage a game for a winning team? We are going to find out but he’s got a 47 QBR, thats not even mediocre. You can argue QBR is not everything, thats fair, but he doesn’t pass the eye test either. He’s made a few plays but every backup level QB can make a play or two, how many times has a backup done it to us?

I hope I’m wrong, I just want to win. The last 3 weeks have been refreshing but its happened because of the emergence of other players, the defense and special teams. We could easily be 2-4 or even 1-5.

But we won those games so the expectations are now much higher and that brings on a new set of problems and pressures for both the coach and QB. Now that the fans have tasted winning again they don’t care how we got here and if it doesn’t continue they and the media are going to lay the blame where they always do, the HC and QB. The next 5 weeks will be a better indicator of where we are, judging things during a winning streak is not the always the best practice when looking at a young, rebuilding team. Lets see how the HC and QB respond when adversity hits again because it will. 28 games is a lot of football and both guys have a chance to be successful here. But they are both trending behind the expectations they came with. I think Salah is on much firmer ground than Wilson, who is not even as good as Sam at this point in their careers, but they are both on clock, because a young HC and young QB are always in the clock.

Peter Buell
Peter Buell
1 month ago
Reply to  Richard Hausig

No idea what you’re watching. If Flacco were still here he would be sacked double digit times per game.
1 in 4 drop backs Wilson is pressured out of the pocket and has yet to throw a stupid interception.
Coach needs to grow balls. He’s not an assistant and player buddy anymore

Jonathan Richter
Jonathan Richter
1 month ago
Reply to  Peter Buell

Agree about Zach. Disagree about Coach Bob.

Peter Buell
Peter Buell
1 month ago
Reply to  Richard Hausig

Guess you missed all those 3rd and 4th down completions vs Pittsburgh! Wilson hasn’t played a full season yet and you don’t throw just to throw
We’ll see if you’re right about Zack Wilson. I think he can be a top 15 QB. he’s 22 and growing and they have 3 TE 2 rb and 3 receivers that need to get fed.
The coaching staff is also in thier 2nd year. Yet instead of enjoying the successes and a QB who came through when needed you want to pander to a 2nd year receiver who has yet to develop the resume to throw me the damn ball demands and it should have been worked out behind the scenes.

Richard Hausig
Richard Hausig
1 month ago
Reply to  Peter Buell

The folks here at JetsX have made similar evaluations from the game film and the analytical perspective. And the Jets coaches agree, thats why hes only attempting 18-25 passes a game.

His issues come from poor mechanics, fundies and a lack of awareness. I see improvement especially in the footwork on running plays and when he’s running play action. Its like dancing, when he gets the steps right it allows him to set his feet, point his shoulder and throw a good ball. But hes still making some really ugly throws when he doesn’t get this feet right. Fundies and mechanics are fixable but awareness is his biggest problem and it’s so bad. It’s reminiscent of Sanchez. He’s got a better arm but that doesn’t matter if you have no clue as to whats happening around you and why Sanchez is out of the league. Remember what they told us about his arm talent and off schedule ability? How does he look to you when the play breaks down? Thats where the passes fall at the reciever’s feet, flutter and get thrown into traffic.
They have dialed him back for a reason and that reason is hes not good enough today to go out there and win games so they are teaching him to manage the game and so far so good. But go look at Trevor Lawrence. He also struggled last year but the improvement is radical. He’s taken that second step while Zach is still being reined in like a rookie. Hes not the guy they thought he was and when they didn’t activate him the first 3 weeks it was because they wanted to see if Flacco could take the job. Last year they didnt bring in an experienced back up until after training camp, why? Because they realized early that he wouldn’t beat out a vet and they wanted him to play anyway. That’s not his fault, we picked him and now they are just trying to find a way to squeeze some value out of him. Dont listen to what they say, watch what they do. Everything they’ve done with him tells you they saw early that he wasn’t the guy they thought and now they are deploying him so he doesn’t lose the game, not to try to win the game. By any measure the progress arrow is pointing down on him. Last week when they were going for the late, two score lead they called for a WR to throw the key passing play, (which turned into Hall running for the TD) not the QB. They felt that handing it off twice and letting a WR throw it was a better play than letting Wilson throw it. Thats the coup de grace moment of the game and they didn’t trust the QB! Thats all gotten lost in Hall’s brilliance. The reverse was covered so he tucked it and made a play. That’s great awareness and its why they put the ball in his hands, not Wilson’s. Its also a very risky play, especially with a one score lead, if you lose the ball that far behind the line you may not have a lead anymore. The coaches know that and still did it. I promise you, no team with a franchise QB would call that play, in that situation (leading late and driving for the clinching score) the QB would make the throw. Zach Wilson is a passenger and his stop is coming up soon. But weve built a nice core and JD will figure it out. Imagine this group with Lamar Jackson? He’s an FA after the season. Zach has these 11 games to prove me wrong and maybe even 17 more next year. But JD didn’t blink when he had the chance to replace Sam with this guy and Sam is better, IMO. We have a great talent base now and I can see this group being a serious contender if you added Jackson. If JD thinks that too hes positioned himself to replace the game manager with a guy that can get us to the SB.

mlesko73
mlesko73
1 month ago

Moore’s frustration is understandable, the way he manifested it is unacceptable.
I have total faith in Saleh and JD to handle the situation appropriately. My hope is that it can be worked out and he stays w/ the team. However, trust and respect from teammates may have already been damaged beyond repair. Sauce has already tweeted a bible quote about selfishness, w/o mentioning any names, wink, wink…maybe an entire team meeting after hashing it out?
Like “JimJets” I wonder about Elijah’s mental state. His tweet asking God for direction is troubling. AJ tweeting #freeElijah is embarrassing to him and Moore. If he is the source of advice it was a poor choice.
However it is resolved I just hope it does not tarnish the good vibe and direction we have going.

dudizt
dudizt
1 month ago

The jets should be in no rush to move him. He’s 22 and young, people make mistakes, I wouldn’t write him off yet. If they can get a steal, then maybe pull the trigger. But I would give him time to cool down while making him inactive for next week, maybe longer to send a message.

dudizt
dudizt
1 month ago
Reply to  Rivka Boord

Ya but he’s under contact for two years after. I think this may go on for awhile but the jets really don’t have to do anything they don’t want. I wouldn’t rush anything.

DFargas
DFargas
1 month ago
Reply to  dudizt

Moore is obviously being immature and making a kid mistake, but when it comes to a potential multi-million dollar athlete, I have to wonder, where are the adults around him, giving advice? Where are his agent, his family and friends? I suppose he might not have consulted anyone before mouthing off, but that seems a little unlikely. When a person is upset, and this has been going on for weeks, they usually confide in someone. Either no one gave him good advice, or he just ignored it.

Michael Nania
Admin
1 month ago
Reply to  DFargas

Not to speculate but I think he might have been partially pushed into this by AJ Brown who is one of the closest people to him. Brown just successfully forced his way out of Tennessee so I could see him advising Moore to try the same. When Moore was spewing off his tweets yesterday, Brown was piggybacking them immediately, which makes me think he was in on it.

Richard Hausig
Richard Hausig
1 month ago
Reply to  DFargas

Right? The adults assured us that he was a high character person. Im not saying he’s not, I’ve been very impressed with him as a person and he has never done anything wrong in his time here, so I respect him.
But it was the adults who told us that he was the next Tyreek Hill and I’m sure hes not that, so maybe the problem is the adults?

Ill go where I always go. Who is responsible for order, organization and communication? That would be the HC. Now, the team captains and leaders play a roll in policing the locker room but discipline and culture are the responsibility of the HC and staff. Bad penalties, repeating mistakes, questionable play calling, chaotic substitution patterns and disgruntled players speaks to a lack of attention to detail and experience on the part of the coaching staff. Not every good coach succeds but all bad coaches fail. And the coaches that fail all generally fit the same pattern of not doing the little things well. Im not saying Salah is going to fail but if he does we are going to look back and connect the dots I’ve mentioned above because they are the warning signs. Parcells and Bill B and many other greats HCs struggled their first few years. There is a lot to like about Salah but I think it’s fair to wonder if he can be a player’s coach and instill enough discipline. Being well liked is different than being respected and Im not sure if they respect him or not.

Jonathan Richter
Jonathan Richter
1 month ago
Reply to  Richard Hausig

Wow, Richard. That’s 3 big comments here and each one has gone farther off the rails. First of all, 2 days ago, everyone in the world thought Saleh was a coach of the year candidate. A team that was predicted to start 0-9 is now 4-2 and coming off an impressive performance in GB. Suddenly, because a young man we thought had good character, throws a temper tantrum and you think the sky is falling?

This team absolutely loves Saleh for 2 great reasons. One is that he works himself as hard and he asks anyone else to work, and more importantly, he genuinely loves and cares bout the welfare of each and every guy on his team as a human being. This team has bought in to his message, and the results are coming even faster than we might have expected.

The main strategy for success that I see Saleh bringing to the team is his quest to have high character guys on the team. Guys who are team first, and will do whatever is asked of them for the greater goals of the team. Guys who want to get better every day, and who LOVE football. They love everything about it from playing to training to the weight room, to rehab, to taking care of their bodies and diet. You can see the change in the draft classes from Joe Douglas’ first draft, to the next 2 under Saleh. Denzel Mims and Mekhi Becton were not Saleh draft picks.

They thought Moore was that kind of guy, but sometimes it takes adversity to make bad character traits come to the surface. Not that being an NFL WR and starting for a team with a winning record should be considered adversity, but Moore is a young kid, in a time when young people are feeling more entitled than ever, and he took some bad advice from another young man. The high character response to his tantrum is what Saleh and the team are doing. You don’t banish your child for misbehaving. You give them a time out and then sit them down and explain that they made a mistake, but that you still love them and want to see them succeed.

As for Zach, your own comments undercut your criticism. You write “unless he significantly improves over the next 28 games you cant keep him”. What you’re saying is that it takes 3 full seasons of games to truly see what you have in a young QB. Zach has played barely 1/3 of those games. He hasn’t even played one full season yet. We saw definite improvement from Zach’s first few games to his stretch run where he didn’t throw an interception the last 5 games. Now, in year 2, he’s 3-0!

I don’t understand why you’re so committed to being negative about this team. I’ve been a Jets fan for nearly 50 years, and I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve been truly optimistic about our future. This year is near the top of that list.

verge tibbs
verge tibbs
1 month ago

Nothing grosser than an out of control ego. Hits too close to home for me, im done rooting for moore, just like that.

Good mentioning green bay. Im sure matt lafluer and aaron know all about moore. Maybe jd can get something good back.

Richard Hausig
Richard Hausig
1 month ago
Reply to  Rivka Boord

Do I like what he did? No. Am I ready to hate him over it? Not at all.

Elijah Moore has shown us that he is a serious, responsible, dedicated young man since the day he arrived here. He has never done anything to embarrass the team or himself. He has earned my receipt and the benefit of the doubt as far as I’m concerned.

Hate him because he wants to play? An NFL WR has a limited window of opportunity and the understanding that the window can close tomorrow. What he did was dumb and now it blew up on him, lesson learned. Hes a kid, a good kid, has he not earned a mulligan? I think his record as a Jet merits it.

Peter Buell
Peter Buell
1 month ago
Reply to  Richard Hausig

He just did lot to emavarrass himself and the team which happens to be on 3 game winning streak

Jonathan Richter
Jonathan Richter
1 month ago
Reply to  Richard Hausig

I can’t believe that you’re so forgiving of Moore when you’re so critical of Saleh.

Edward Kirby
Edward Kirby
1 month ago
Reply to  verge tibbs

And maybe he can help them beat BUF and MIA.

SmokeEater26
SmokeEater26
1 month ago

I’m really hoping we don’t trade him. Make him a huge part of the offense like he was last season and was expected to be this season. More snaps more damn targets. Put him on the slot or swap roles with Garrett Wilson like Nania said in his article earlier. It’s really that simple and both receivers should benefit greatly from it! Don’t fuck up with Moore the way you did with Jamal Adams J.D. please 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Peter Buell
Peter Buell
1 month ago
Reply to  Rivka Boord

Even though the deadline is close I wouldn’t rush to trade him. As said in the article, he has tape so waiting till the offseason wouldn’t be the end of the world.
If they can get one of the following, I’d pull the trigger. This with the assumption they acquire equal talent at a different position.
Safety O-Line, LB, a #2 and 5 ala Darnold. Also, as mentioned I can’t see a team with a greater need than Green Bay and since we’ve already played them, a hard hitting safety would be nice.
Tom Brady has looked very ordinary from what I’ve seen and I know his options are limited.
Add a pick in there with both teams because of thier desperation!
With a surprise good start and imo a year ahead of schedule, he can’t even be on the sidelines till either a trade or a massive attitude adjustment which rarely happens when things reach this point.
Good for Saleh!

Richard Hausig
Richard Hausig
1 month ago
Reply to  Rivka Boord

Unless I missed something this looks like Salah not letting a crisis go to waste. I don’t think this is that big a deal based on his actual public comments but obviously we don’t know what happened inside the building.

Either way, good for Salah. This sends a message that should have been sent weeks ago. Its easy to be their friend but he’s the boss and sometimes the boss has to make the hard decision that a friend won’t. This is the right decision and Salah will be better for finally reminding everyone that he is the boss first. Well done.

Jonathan Richter
Jonathan Richter
1 month ago
Reply to  Richard Hausig

It cracks me up that people think that because Coach Bob won’t throw players under the bus in a press conference that that means there is no discipline in the locker room. It is a fundamental maxim of managing people that you praise in public and criticise in private. That loyalty does not go unnoticed in the locker room and is part of why they love him so much.

I see ZERO lack of discipline on this team. The offense has barely committed any penalties at all, and those “bad” penalties on the D were mainly questionable calls by the refs. It’s been clear all season that other teams will be allowed to get away with stuff that we get flagged for.

This is only the 2nd player to ask to be traded, and Denzel, who was not a Saleh draft pick, seems to have mended his ways and is doing what is asked of him. This Sunday will be a huge opportunity for him. Becton, also not a Saleh pick, has disappointed by not keeping his weight in check, and IMO he may have played his last game in green and white (and black).

Last edited 1 month ago by Jonathan Richter
Jonathan Richter
Jonathan Richter
1 month ago
Reply to  Rivka Boord

While I’d rather they keep Moore and help him to get back on the right path, trading him to Chicago for Roquan Smith is one I would do, but would be a hefty penalty for Moore. If he doesn’t like playing with Zach on a playoff-bound team, what’s he going to do with Justin Fields on a team looking at a top draft slot?

Richard Hausig
Richard Hausig
1 month ago
Reply to  Peter Buell

Hes not getting traded.

But you bring up a great point Peter. Salah cracking down here could be a watershed moment (though I don’t know why we call it watershed) 🤔

He should have cracked down hard sooner, hes had plenty of chances since camp and he has been too soft. I commend him, also. He owes it to his playes to instill sufficient discipline in the team.

Richard Hausig
Richard Hausig
1 month ago
Reply to  Rivka Boord

I agree with everything you said but I think its less selfishness and more a frustrated, young guy who lost his cool, said something dumb and probably really regrets it.

Then somehow it blew up. Not for nothing, but he has a front row seat to watch the exile of a WR who was also a 2nd round pick. Im sure if you’re him you would be worried it could happen to you too.

Instant gratification is the 8th deadly sin.

Jets71
Jets71
1 month ago
Reply to  SmokeEater26

Would you rather have AVT or Adams?

Peter Buell
Peter Buell
1 month ago
Reply to  SmokeEater26

Considering the return and what it was turned into, the Jets have far from Fd up with Adams or even Darnold.
Adams has turned into an over-pqid injury prone semi-bust that JD got two 1’s and a 3 in return plus saving over $20m in cp room.
Darnild was considered untraceable and Douglass got a #2 and 5 and now Darnild, while still young isn’t helping anyone.
A 3 game win streak and this is what he’s about.

Jimjets
Jimjets
1 month ago

His tweets are/were bizarre. I hope the kids ok mentally. This came out of nowhere.

dudizt
dudizt
1 month ago
Reply to  Rivka Boord

I think AJ and Philly success makes him think that’s the norm. But AJ is more proven.